Agenda and minutes

No. Item

Committee Membership

The Committee were advised of three changes of Committee Membership that had been submitted to the Home Office for approval.


Councillor L Thorne advised that she had been nominated as a Cabinet Member for Cardiff Council and that she had been replaced as Cardiff’s representative on the Committee by Councillor D De’Ath.


Councillor L Thorne then left the Meeting.


Apologies for Absence


Apologies for absence were received from Councillor G Sullivan.


Declarations of Interest


No Declarations of Interest were made.


Minutes of Previous Meeting pdf icon PDF 105 KB


Resolved that:


The Minutes of the Meeting held 7 May 2014 be accepted as a correct record.


Briefing Session

A briefing session for Panel members will be held from 11.30am to 12.00pm (approximately) prior to the arrival of any invited attendees or witnesses to the meeting.



The Committee discussed in detail the items on the agenda prior to the attendance of the Police and Crime Commissioner and the Deputy Chief Constable.


Simon Jones then advised of a Complaint that had been received and gave details of the Complaint to the Committee and responded to questions raised.


The Committee then agreed that Simon Jones respond to the complainant.


The Committee were then circulated with a copy of the College of Policing- Code of Ethics Document for their information.


A Member then referred to item 15-Equality and Diversity and advised that this issue needed to be addressed with the Commissioner.



Change in membership of the South Wales Police and Crime Panel pdf icon PDF 91 KB

See attached report


Resolved that:


The change in membership of the South Wales Police and Crime Panel be noted.


Responses to Questions raised by the Panel to the Commissioner pdf icon PDF 75 KB

See attached report

Additional documents:


The Chair welcomed Mr Alun Michael Police and Crime Commissioner, Mr Matt Jukes Deputy Chief Constable, Mr Cerith Thomas, Mr Mark Brace, Mr Geoffrey Petty, Ms Kate Carr and Ms Jacqueline Trow to the Meeting.


Mr Michael referred the Committee to item 13 of the Minutes of the previous Meeting and advised that the criticism did not relate to South Wales.


Simon Jones confirmed that he had written to the WLGA and they were aware of the concerns as raised at the previous Meeting.


Mr Michael then referred the Committee to item 11 of the Minutes of the previous Meeting and updated the Committee to the current situation and advised that the case for Capital City Funding when finalised would be circulated to the Committee.


The Committee then referred to the responses report to the questions that had been submitted to the Police and the Commissioner and raised the following further questions on the responses:


Question four: A Member referred to the Annual Report and asked if a report was available for the costs incurred for the Commissioners Office only.


Mr Petty advised that the Commissioner and the Chief Constable produced two Statement of Accounts that were then combined into a group set of accounts.  These Accounts were now with the Wales Audit Office and that there would be no problem to bring the Accounts to the Committee when the Audit had been concluded.


Question two: Equality and Diversity and the question that had been raised under Paragraph 15 of the Minutes.


The Commissioner then gave a detailed response to the Committee and addressed the issues raised and referred to the role of the Committee to scrutinise and the appropriateness of being a Panel and Committee representative.


Mr Jukes then updated the Committee in relation to the Equalities and Diversity Board, positive actions, recruitment and the Code of Ethics.


The Chair then thanked Mr Michael and Mr Jukes for their responses and update to the Committee.



Update from the Deputy Chief Constable

No background papers. The Deputy Chief Constable to provide an update on Victim satisfaction; the changes in Crime recording; and G4S.


Mr Jukes updated the Committee in relation to:


·         NATO Summit

·         G4S

·         Victim Satisfaction

·         Crime Recording


Questions were then raised by the Committee and were answered in detail by Mr Jukes.


The Chair then thanked Mr Jukes for his response and update to the Committee.


General Allowance Payment and Expenses pdf icon PDF 81 KB

See attached report (Deferred from previous meeting)


Simon Jones referred the Panel to the General Allowance Payment and Expenses report.


A Member then raised the issue of attendance at National Events as a Committee Representative.


Resolved that:


(a)   The report be deferred

(b)   Simon Jones write to the Home Office regarding the matter of claiming of expenses to attend National Events as a Committee Representative


Date and time of next meeting

Tuesday 21st October 2014, at 11.30am.

Orbit Business Centre, Merthyr Tydfil



The Committee considered the commencement time for future Meetings.


Resolved that:


The next Committee Meeting be held on Tuesday 21 October 2014 commencing at 10.30 am to be held at the Orbit Business Centre, Merthyr Tydfil.


Any Other Business as deemed urgent by the Chair


The Chair advised that there was no business deemed urgent.


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