Agenda and minutes

Venue: Orbit Business Centre, Rhydycar Business Park, Merthyr Tydfil, CF48 1DL

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Councillor R Smith thanked the Committee for his appointment as Committee Chair


Apologies for Absence


Apologies for absence were received from Councillor K Gibbs, Councillor J Thomas and Mr M Jehu Co-opted Member.


Declarations of Interest

Members are reminded of their personal responsibility to declare any personal and prejudicial interest in respect of matters contained in this agenda in accordance with the provisions of the Local Government and Finance Act 1992 relating to Council Tax, the Local Government Act 2000, the Council’s Constitution and the Members Code of Conduct




(a)  Members are reminded that they must identify the item number and subject matter that their interest relates to and signify the nature of the personal interest and


(b)  Where Members withdraw from a Meeting as a consequence of the disclosure of a prejudicial interest they must notify the Chair when they leave


Mr Martyn Jones advised the Committee that he had been appointed to the Equality and Human Rights Wales Committee.


Minutes of Previous Meeting(s)


The Committee approves as accurate (subject to any amendments) the Minutes of the following Meeting(s)


8 September 2017 pdf icon PDF 99 KB


The Minutes of the Meeting held 8 September 2017 were submitted.


Arising under Item 4 – Appointment of Vice Chair it should read ‘Mr Melvin Jehu’.


Resolved subject to the foregoing that:


The Minutes of the Meeting held 8 September 2017 be accepted as a correct record.


Briefing Session

A briefing session for Panel Members will be held from 10.35am - 11.05am (approximately) prior to the arrival of any invited attendees or witnesses to the meeting.


The Panel considered in detail the issues that were to be considered at the Meeting.


The Chair referred to Consultation on Proposals for National Representation and advised that he would be happy to make contact and arrange a Meeting and report back to the Panel.


Public Questions

To receive any Public Questions.


Note: Members of the public are able to ask questions or make a statement in relation to the responsibilities and functions of the Panel at each meeting. A maximum of 30 minutes will be allocated to this at the start of each meeting, and each question or statement should last no longer than 3 minutes. Questions must be put in writing to the Monitoring Officer at Merthyr Tydfil County Borough Council no later than 10 clear working days before the meeting. Questions are limited to a maximum of 2 per person / organisation. A response will be given as either a direct oral answer or a written reply. Statements must be given in writing and can be received up to 10 minutes before the start of the meeting.



The Chair advised that this item would be taken as Item three on the agenda.


The Chair then advised that prior to the Meeting he had been handed a letter from a member of the public who was present at the Meeting.


Simon Jones then read out the letter in full for the information of the Committee and also outlined the procedures in relation to correspondence received and the Complaints procedure.


Resolved that:


(a)  The letter be referred to the Proper Officer

(b)  The matter be referred to the Police and Crime Commissioner


Councillor T Davies entered the Meeting at 10.37 am.


Refresh of the Police and Crime Plan pdf icon PDF 4 MB

To consider the attached report


The Chair welcomed Alun Michael Police and Crime Commissioner, Matt Jukes Chief Constable, Richard Lewis Deputy Chief Constable, Lee Jones Assistant Police and Crime Commissioner, Umar Hussain Chief Finance Officer and Sergeant Brian Allsop to the Meeting.


The Chair advised Mr Michael of the Complaint that had been received and the decision of the Committee in relation to the Complaint.


Mr Michael then advised the Panel that Matt Jukes would take up his role on 1 January 2018 and also advised that Richard Lewis had been appointed as Deputy Chief Constable.


Matt Jukes then thanked the Committee for his appointment and outlined the details of the interview process for the Deputy Chief Constable.


Mr Michael then advised the Committee that Mr Geoff Petty Treasurer had been involved in a motorway accident.


The Chair then requested that Mr Michael forward the thoughts of the Committee to Mr Petty’s family.


Mr Michael and Mr Jukes then referred the Committee to the South Wales Police and Crime Plan 2018-21 – Executive Summary.


Questions were then raised on the Plan and were responded to in detail by Mr Michael.


Resolved that:


The Plan be approved subject to Consultation being undertaken.


The current Medium Term Financial Strategy pdf icon PDF 40 KB

To consider the attached report

Additional documents:


The Chair referred the Committee to the report of the Police and Crime Commissioner on Medium Term Financial Strategy 2017 - 2021.


The Committee then received a Presentation from Mr Michael, Mr Jukes, Mr Lewis and Mr Hussain giving details of:


·         Our Joint Ambition

·         Oath of Office

·         Duties of the Commissioner

·         Crime in South Wales

·         Strategic Aims

·         Our Policing Priorities

·         Adverse Childhood Experiences

·         Commissioner’s Innovation Bid Funding

·         Understanding our Demand

·         South Wales Police

·         Local Policing

·         Demand: How Busy are we and How are we doing

·         Demand: It’s not just about Crime

·         Crime on our streets is challenging

·         Non Crime demand – Is Huge

·         Hidden Harms

·         Force: Volume of all Sexual Offences by Timeliness

·         It’s a fact Crime is changing

·         Policing the Capital: A unique challenge for the Force

·         Policing major events

·         Current Financial Health Indicators

·         Comparative Position Reserves

·         On target for year on year savings up to 2017/18

·         Budget Statement 2017

·         Unfunded – Sustainable Infrastructure need

·         2017/18 Financial Projections

·         Emerging Budget Issues 2018/19

·         Ongoing Funding Disadvantages

·         Our Precept History to 2017/18

·         Independent Efficiency Assurance

·         Innovation and Transformation

·         Summary


The following questions were then raised by the Panel and were responded to in detail by Mr Michael and Mr Jukes:


·         Police numbers

·         Powers of PCO’s

·         Reimbursement from big events

·         Bringing of Offenders to Justice

·         Percentage increase of the Precept


Councillor K Robbins left the Meeting at 12.24 pm and returned at 12.28 pm.


Councillor K Roberts left the Meeting at 1.22 pm and returned at 1.26 pm.


Councillor R Young left the Meeting at 12.54 pm.


Councillor T Davies left the Meeting at 12.54 pm.


Mr M Jones left the Meeting at 1.29 pm and returned at 1.31 pm.

Deferral of Items

Resolved that:


The remaining items on the agenda be deferred.


Annual Review pdf icon PDF 1 MB

To consider the attached report


Sixth National Conference for Police and Crime Panels pdf icon PDF 106 KB

To receive an update from the Chair and Vice Chair

Additional documents:


Correspondence received - Nomination of SWPCP Member to sit on the Swansea Public Services Board Scrutiny Performance Panel. pdf icon PDF 117 KB

To consider the attached report

Additional documents:


Oversight of Complaints pdf icon PDF 156 KB

To consider the attached report


Date of next meeting

Tuesday 30th January 2018 at 10.30am

Orbit Business Centre, Rhydycar Business Park, Merthyr Tydfil, CF48 1DL


Any other business deemed urgent by the Chair


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