Agenda and minutes

Venue: Orbit Business Centre, Rhydycar Business Park, Merthyr Tydfil, CF48 1DL

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Apologies for Absence


Apologies for absence were received from Councillors C Richards (Swansea), S Jago (Merthyr Tydfil), Mr Martyn Jones (Co-optee), Emma Wools (Deputy Commissioner), Steve Treharne (SWP).


Declarations of Interest

Members are reminded of their personal responsibility to declare any personal and prejudicial interest in respect of matters contained in this agenda in accordance with the provisions of the Local Government and Finance Act 1992 relating to Council Tax, the Local Government Act 2000, the Council’s Constitution and the Members Code of Conduct




(a)  Members are reminded that they must identify the item number and subject matter that their interest relates to and signify the nature of the personal interest and


(b)  Where Members withdraw from a Meeting as a consequence of the disclosure of a prejudicial interest they must notify the Chair when they leave


Councillor B Bowen-Thompson advised that the Charity she works for receives funding and therefore wished to declare an interest.


Minutes of Previous Meeting(s) pdf icon PDF 117 KB


Amendment on Page 3 of minutes to read Emma Wools not Emma Wills.


Amendment on Page 4 of minutes to read Richard Lewis not Richard Davies.


Resolved that:-


The Minutes of the Meeting held 11th December 2018 be accepted as a true record subject to the amendments listed above.


Medium Term Financial Strategy 2019 - 2023 (Cover Report) pdf icon PDF 615 KB

To consider the attached report



The Chair welcomed Alun Michael, Police and Crime Commissioner and colleagues from the Commissioner’s office to the Meeting.


The Commissioner referred to the Police Precept Consultation 2019-2020 document and advised that the information was based on 1,619 responses and gave detail on the following:-


-       How received

-       Age

-       Gender

-       Sexual Orientation

-       Ethnicity

-       Religion or Belief

-       Disability


Further information was provided on:-


·         Geographical footprint

·         Survey Results (police precept awareness/policing priorities)

·         Police Precept Contributions


Further information was then presented detailing by the Chief Constable, Mr Curran and Mr Hussain on:-


-       Mid Term Financial Strategy

-       Financial background

-       Medium Term Financial Strategy 2019-23

-       Final Police Settlement 2019-20

-       Police Settlement 2019-20

-       Police Precept

-       Cumulative Impact of Central Government Decisions on Police Funding

-       Police Officer number 1979 – 2018

-       Public Perceptions of Policing 2018

-       Budget requirement

-       Medium Term Financial Projections

-       Unresolved Funding Inequalities

-       Precept History

-       Precept Increase

-       Quality of Service

-       Demand and Challenges


The following questions and comments were raised by the Panel Members:-


·         What is the geographical breakdown of respondents?

·         Clarity sought on (page 33) whether 2023 should read 2022?

·         RCT referred to as Rhondda and Merthyr Tydfil referred to as Merthyr, could this be amended in future reports?


The Chair referred to a letter sent to Rt Hon Yvette Cooper MP from Rt Hon Savid Javid MP, Home Secretary.  Detailed discussion took place regarding the content of the letter. 


A panel member requested that this letter be circulated to members.


Mr Michael and the Officers then left the Meeting to enable the Panel to consider the recommendation.


Considerable debate then ensued on the recommendation as contained within the report with the Panel.


Simon Jones reminded the Committee on the voting procedures.


A vote was then taken on whether to Veto the recommendation of 10.3% and the number required to Veto was not reached.  Therefore it was


Resolved that:


There is an increase in the Precept to £126,490,672 which is £257.52 (for a Band D property) for 2019/20 and a 10.28% or £24.00 per annum increase with the caviat that there is no reduction in front line services.


Mr Michael and the Officers re-entered the Meeting and were advised by the Chair of the decision of the Panel.






Medium Term Financial Strategy 2019 - 2023 pdf icon PDF 4 MB

To consider the attached report



To receive the Report.


South Wales Police & Crime Plan 2019 - 21 (Cover Report) pdf icon PDF 61 KB

To consider the attached report



Mr Alun Michael referred Panel to the South Wales Police & Crime Plan 2010 – 21 Executive Summary and hoped the Panel found the document practical and useful. 


The following topics were raised and discussed by Panel:-


·         Changing attitudes of Police

·         Operational Policing

·         Partnership Work

·         Brexit

·         Women’s Pathfinder

·         ACEs

·         Recruitment of Police Officers

·         Mental Health/Control Room


Recommended that:


The Panel endorse and approve the amended Police and Crime Plan.


South Wales Police & Crime Plan 2019 - 21 pdf icon PDF 3 MB

To consider the attached report



To receive the Report.


Any other business deemed urgent by the Chair


The Chair advised that there was no business deemed urgent.


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